Around the time of Earth Hour, I got into a little argument with an extreme right wing climate change denier.
All this occurred on a mutual friend’s Facebook status. Poor guy.
In between personal attacks, which amused more than offended me (“fetid screeching pagan hippie socialist douche bag”), my opponent said something that actually challenged me:
“You’re not going to be able to convince the people you need to because you fundamentally don’t understand how to talk to them or how they think.”
He then continued calling me a hysterical unhygienic pseudo-Marxist.
While musing in the wise insight that he and I were so fundamentally different that we would never be able to agree, I realised this captures the nature of debate on the web.
That is, true debate cannot exist because everyone sticks to their own niche.
And if true debate did occur, the anonymity of the web and group mentality evident in a niche would quickly lead the argument to a reduction ad Hitlerum.
For example:
“You hippie douche bags are all the same, placing your faith in the socialist pseudo-science of Gaia.”
“I’m quite the opposite of a hippie; and all I ask for is sustainability.”
“Yeah, and I bet you’re a vegan too. Hitler was a vegan. I bet he called for ‘sustainability’! Murderer!”
As you can see, the web allows for a new kind of logic in debates.
The renowned media academic Geert Lovink is onto something when he states: “Debates happen within homogeneous webclouds.” For him, the blogosphere is simply made up of niche “communities of like-minded people” (Zero Comments, page 21). Meaningful discussion is thus prevented by the fragmented structure of the web. Instead what occurs is discussion amongst similar people, with similar views and values on similar interests which generate similar opinions.
It is a limitation of Anderson’s ‘long tail’. Rather than fostering healthy debate on the widely accessible web, which according to Terry Flew could reinvigorate the public sphere, blogs simply lead to backslapping and encouragement amongst similar readers.
Commenting cultures serve to reinforce beliefs, narrowing the mind and cutting off debate.
Certainly, this is what I see on so many climate change blogs.
From what I can gather, on a climate change blog comments will follow one of two set patterns:
1. The Intruder.
We’ve all seen it happen. Someone comments on a blog that is fundamentally different to what they believe in. The mob mentality roars into action, and the debate quickly slides into jokes about the intruder’s Mum. Imagine Tim Flannery commenting on Andrew Bolt’s blog – and opposing what Bolt was saying (as you would expect – Bolt refers to Flannery as a “serial exaggerator and false prophet”). He would be an outsider to the beliefs and opinions pushed and reinforced in that space. Subsequently he would be attacked by Bolt’s majority audience who all support Bolt’s views. Nothing would be sacred (for example, “Flannery = Hitler”), and Flannery would be reduced to quietly disappearing from the ‘debate’. Of course, an intruder may not even get published if the moderator is strict in their views. A fine example of an intruder is Peter Costello writing against action on climate change for the centre-left newspaper The Age. The centre-left audience was not too impressed.
2. The Love-in.
Someone posts a blog on how we need to all act now to save the world. 200 comments later, and nothing new has been advanced. Just a lot of cheering, virtual smiles and hugs, and the odd person wanting to expand on the original blog by saying something that reads like: “I agree completely with what you say, so now listen to me re-word it and qualify my worth by using newer statistics. PS check out my blog!”
These comment models are evident on all sides of the climate debate. As Lovink writes, “Blogs clearly create their own secluded social networks” (page 2).
Of course, this is a pattern that occurs on blogs that get comments in the first place. Most blogs within the ever expanding long tail do not generate enough attention to even begin to scratch the surface of public debate. Check out how many comments Oxfam’s climate change blog gets.
In fact, I think it’s fair to say most people don’t comment on blogs. As Lovink writes, why even comment that you disagree with a certain blog? He argues that it’s much safer to simply post a remark on your own blog – with an almost zero chance of response. Plus why even write that you agree with a blog that only you and a few others read? Unless you actually wish to foster a connection with the author, you may as well stay silent. Everyone else is.
As one random interjected during a particularly heated part of my argument with the denier:
“You guys should probably find something better to with your free time…like listening to Prince and not worrying so much about the troubles of the world.”
And herein lies the core problem of debate on the internet: most people just can’t be bothered.
If people aren’t prepared for healthy debate outside of the web, then it’s unlikely they’ll engage in it on the web. Indifference lies more with the personality rather than the medium.
Even Lovink acknowledges this to some extent by saying that most bloggers do not aim to foster debate. Bloggers are indifferent to whether they want debate to occur on their pages. They have a message to share – a product of their opinions that they want others to consume – and they’re not likely to want that part of their identity torn to shreds by anonymous opponents.
Of course, there are sites that attempt to foster debate on the web, see for example The Punch, which relies upon participatory culture, or the soon to be launched Speak Your Mind, which aims to encourage debate amongst young people on social and environmental issues – in a TED meets Huffington Post style forum.
I hope my blog is also a space where people at least start thinking about the issues surrounding climate change debate. So far comments have fallen in the second category of “I like what you say. PS check out my blog!”
My moderation policy is that I will publish all comments unless they are inflammatory, discriminatory or constitute a personal attack. Attack the argument, not the person. This may yield healthy discussion on major issues, or it may lead to no one commenting. I suppose it all depends on my content anyway.
On that note, my participation in comment discussions would be limited. I think it is important to respond to genuine and relevent comments that add to the debate, however I’ve learnt my lesson on engaging in arguments that ultimately make a fool of all participants. Lovink quotes Claire E. Write in claiming that most bloggers fear comments turning their blogs into discussion boards, “the essence of the blog is not the interactivity of the medium: it is the sharing of the thoughts an opinions of the blogger” (page 28). A blogger contributing comments thus opens themselves up to having to police the posts, weeding out spam and trolls and answering endless technical questions from registrants. I want to avoid that that, thanks.
For the record, I clearly won the debate. And I’m not vegan, nor a nazi. Click the link below if you have time to read the whole argument.